Genius Born or Made?

A podcast about the invisible habits behind extraordinary performance

Each episode, I sit down with a world-class performer — across science, sport, and business — to uncover what actually built them. Not the highlight reel. The invisible decisions, habits, and parenting underneath it.

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Episode 4: No One Is a Born NEET Topper: AIIMS Rank-1 Surgeon Lokesh Agarwal on How Toppers Are Made

Dr. Lokesh Agarwal is firmly in the 'made' camp. A three-time All-India Rank 1 in India's medical entrance exams and now a hepatobiliary, liver-transplant and GI-cancer surgeon at AIIMS Jodhpur, he flunked class 3 and didn't shine early — so he credits no innate talent. He breaks down the 'hunger' that drove him, why his father deliberately refused to fund his education, how to study to the limit of your exhaustion, curiosity-based learning, reframing failure, and what parents should — and shouldn't — do.

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IIT JEE Rank 1 Didn't Prepare Him for Real Life | Vineet Buch on Genius Born or Made?

Episode 3: IIT JEE Rank 1: What Exams Teach — and What They Don't

Vineet Buch topped India's toughest engineering exam as a teenager — a feat that taught him how to structure hard work and love the process, but, he argues, academics are poor preparation for the messy problems of real life. This episode is about what actually built him, and what school left out.

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Genius Born or Made? Olympian Megumi Field on What Matters More Than Talent

Episode 2: Only 30% Was Talent: Olympian Megumi Field on Discipline, Goals & Pressure

Megumi Field credits only about 30% of her success to natural gifts; the rest is made. The Paris 2024 silver medalist explains how tiny, tangible goals compound, why a little extra effort every day beats heroics, how her family's sacrifice fueled her, and the 'bubble' that let Team USA perform under Olympic pressure.

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Genius Born or Made? The Traits That Built Ex-McKinsey CEO Dominic Barton

Episode 1: Ex-McKinsey CEO Dominic Barton: What Actually Builds a Leader

Dominic Barton is firmly in the 'made' camp. The former global head of McKinsey breaks down the habits that built him — disciplined homework as a kid, 100-plus mentors, lifelong reading, and resilience through hard career setbacks — and explains why he hires for character over raw intelligence.

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About the Host

Himanshu Gupta is the CEO of ClimateAi, a WEF Young Global Leader, and a new dad obsessed with one question: what actually builds genius? He started this podcast to find out.

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The Founder's Office behind the podcast is hiring — a part-time Associate and a Founder's Office Intern, both remote in India. If you want to help more young people find these conversations, come build it.

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